Thank you for the detailed instructions @Runcell, never used that before and it solved my problem. That’s great!
I love Audioshare too. I wish one could send a sample from it to one of miRack’s samplers but this seems rather complicated to implement!
Sending samples from AudioShare is totally possible @jsmonzani… it’s more the other way around - you import samples to the sampler from AudioShare.
Create a new sampler in miRack (I use Nysthi, mostly) and double tap it to bring up the menu. . . Tap on load sample… note the name of the folder you are now in - at top- and next to that (on left, I think) is a small blue arrow - Tap the blue arrow to come out of current folder… and you should now see AudioShare on the left hand side… Tap to enter folder, select sample - tap to load.
Phew ! Hope that makes sense…
@Runcell what about deleting samples loaded into the auv3?
i have mirack as an auv3 inside of ape matrix. then i loaded a file called x.wav into the cf player sampler in the mirack auv3 instance. but x.wav now does not show up under general<iphone storage<micrack like you described (x.wav is also not showing up anywhere in apematrix or the main mirack folder). but x.wav is now always there still whenever i load cf sampler inside the auv3 and use the + and - buttons of the cf player to cycle through the available samples. where are those auv3 samples being stored and is there a way to remove them?
I see… initialise does not work for me also. The only way I could clear a sample is by loading a new cf player… but for you, even then the sample is still there.
I would try re connecting the drive that the sample was loaded from…and… load another cf player… mess with +/- buttons, delete cfplayer disconnect drive and open new cf player & visa versa !! Then try same again in stand alone… I’m not really sure to be honest, it’s strange.
Cf player is also a little buggy on iPad - when using +/- buttons…
and as for AUv3, I’m not sure what’s going on there, every time I use it I end up problem solving instead of making music… not just miRack but all apps - SugarBytes Cubasis Moog…
…best not get into a rant, I hope there’s something there that leads you to a soloution.
All the best
@Runcell - also when i load a sample “x2.wav” into any of the other samplers in the auv3, for example the nythsi ones - even after fully deleting x2.wav from it’s original location and a full reboot of my device, x2.wav still shows up via the cf sampler’s + - buttons. i also noticed that the nythsi convolution reverb - loading impulse response .wav files into there - those .wavs too also show up in the cf sampler via the + - buttons. so it seems any .wav file loaded into any auv3 mirack module that accepts .wav files- those get copied to some place unknown.
i recently spoke alexander zolotov, the creator of sunvox - about where sunvox’s auv3 samples were stored and he said that apple keeps those in a special location not accessible from the files app (so he built in a wifi localhost option to access/manage those auv3 .wav files via safari).
are there any other ideas on how i can get rid of these unwanted .wav files? i have a lot of large files i loaded in during initial tests i was doing with the sampler modules. i’m trying to get ready for a big live set at a decent sized festival and i’d love to use mirack heavily (because it’s an awesome app!) but unfortunately im running out of disc space on this device 
Alexander Zolotof is a very clever guy (I have nearly all his apps) and what he says makes sense, besides we all like to blame apple.
I wonder if he could make a host available on App Store to access all apps AU wav. files… may be worth an ask.
The only advice I can give is to try re connecting the drive and avoid making patches/loading samples etc whilst in AUv3… Make all patches and load all samples in standalone, save it then load it up in AU. I don’t even record via AU, I record using samplers, within miRack, save it then import the wav. to Cubasis… because AU is problematic every time with every app i try.
I will have a another look to see if there is any other ways of deleting wav. files, I would also avoid cf player for now and report a possible bug to Vitaly.
Sorry I can’t be of much help, all best
unfortunately cf player is one of the most cpu efficient ones (at least on my device) and easier to use so can’t avoid using it for now since i’ve already got way too many patches using it. and again, any and all modules in the auv3 that load a sample, do this ‘automatic copying them to a secret folder’ - so even if i use another sampler, im up against the same problem. also, am not using external drives so i can’t test out your idea. everything is done within this one mobile device here.
i think reporting a bug to vitaly makes the most sense. what is the best way to report a bug? through this forum or?
also i will definitely mention that idea to alexader although i think he said that the ability to access from localhost to the auv3’s secret folder -has to be built into each auv3 itself.
also i did actually just realize that, you can load in a smaller sample with the same exact filename and it overwrites the older version. so this is one dirty solution - at least to free up file space. but it still doesn’t allow one to remove these files altogether.
That’s a great, like you say ‘dirty soloution’ @offthesky. That’s freed up space… What is your AU host ? Because I always have problems in Cubasis 2 and Cubasis 3 is somehow worse !
Ah! ApeMatrix…!
Thanks for the detailed instructions on loading samples 
Much appreciated!
Thanks @offthesky , I wasn’t sure the previous solution solved the AUv3 “where are my samples loaded?” problem and it seems it doesn’t as I thought.
I’ve backed up my patches, deleted and reinstalled miRack, and carefully loaded a single small sample into cf player. I can confirm all other samples were deleted (or at least, they don’t show up). Hope this can fix your problem. Did you try this?
Here’s also the warning that you get the first time. There’s an indication of the destination Imported hidden folder but nothing more we can do.
Finally, I use AUM and only had one crash (and honestly with modules that weren’t stable in VCV either).
Thanks for the pic @jsmonzani, I did consider suggesting a re install, as a last resort… as time consuming and stressful as that can be !
To access the ‘imported’ folder from within miRack, drop down the patch menu (load/save menu) Tap on ‘Open existing’ and hit the blue arrow (browse) once or twice to expose the browser (on left hand side)… Select iCloud Drive… and within the miRack folder is another folder labelled ‘IMPORTED’. . Could the samples be in here ? I could not find a folder labelled ‘Documents’ though !
Also, the pop up notification suggests/recommends copying your samples to MiRack folder manually to avoid this.
If I am using samples from an external drive I always copy them onto the iPad first. I save them in AudioShare so that I can load them in from miRack. I’ve never had these issues and I always know where to access my wav.s … I would never stream samples from an external drive.
Thanks! I see a difference between us and it’s interesting: I’m storing files locally and not on iCloud. So for me, the miRack folder is local (nothing on iCloud), and there’s no “Imported” folder in it.
I’ve previously tried to copy my WAV file to my local miRack folder, import it in cf Player and then delete the local file: it’s still available on cf Player, suggesting that it’s staying somewhere.
Well I’d say: let’s avoid cf Player and go for NYSTHI’s ones for the time being. FYI, I had issues on VCV Windows with cf Player in the past, and never used it since then. There might be something fishy in there…
I don’t store wav’s on iCloud @jsmonzani… the pop up in your screen shot says the sample/wav. file is being stored/imported to the ‘IMPORTED’ folder, which i found in the iCloud folder, not ‘Documents’. I could not find a ‘documents’ folder.!
I use MiRack in standalone (I may have mentioned AUv3). If I record miRack, sounds, samples or whole songs within miRack, I use a nysthi sampler to record into and I (manually) save that sample to the (local) miRack folder… I can then use AudioShare or TwistedWave to extract that recording, edit and bounce around to other apps or even back into miRack.
If I’m importing/loading sounds, samples/wav. files into a (nysthi) sampler, I use AudioShare, where I store all sounds/wav’s. If I import sounds or samples from an external drive, I save them to AudioShare first… where they can then be loaded into nysthi, or cf player (if you’re feeling brave) or any sampler or many other apps.
Thank you! Makes all sense to me! Although I can’t find an IMPORTED folder on my iPad 
NYSTHI is indeed the safest way to go at the moment for recording.
I love using AudioShare as well as you do 
Have a great day!
Brilliant, I wouldn’t worry too much about the imported folder. When you’re feeling confident with the folder/structure have a dig around…
Use AudioShare as a kind of sample hub… for all (compatible) apps.
all the best 
yeah, i definitely want to avoid reinstalling the app - what a pain! especially since i have a lot of older auv3 patches that use the cf player; dont want to maybe lose connection to those samples that i actually want that are now in the “unknown folder”. guess i could go through each and all patches and write down what samples were used but wow what a time wasting pain.
also @jsmonzani - did you notice in the ios auv3 that when you import a .wav using any of the nythsi ones (the samplers or even the convolution reverb) - any module that allows sample import - that after loading, those samples then too show up in the cf player forever afterward (proving they’ve all been copied to somewhere unkown)? even after you delete the sample from it’s original location. i wish we could turn off this “auto import into hidden folder” behavior. it’s frustrating but the silver lining is it has me very very carefully considering things before every sample i load up in the auv3 plugin. this is actually turning into a weird benefit in disguise.
sad to hear you all have had problems with the cf player-i haven’t had any crashes with those. on my device that module seems to be the most cpu efficient of them all. one patch even has at least 8 or 9 cf player modules in use with no hitches.
@offthesky Yes I’ve noticed samples imported in NYSTHI showing up in cf Player: I thought that they were copied into a “nysthi” folder in miRack’s folder (I had one of this nysthi folder before reinstalling). However, I’ve tested it again and now I can’t see this nysthi folder anymore so I’m very confused about that!
It really seems that we need more transparency on how samples are imported but we can’t do much at the moment. I would tend to avoid samplers for the time being but it’s kind of sad.
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